Do you think GD starts at a young age

I was in the toy store the other day and a mom was returning a doll because her daughter didn't want a boy doll. Needless to say the store was not sympathetic and the mum left with penis in hand. But it got me thinking do you think GD is ingrained into young girls from childhood. I look down the dolls isle and its all baby girl this and baby girl that. Why cant doll companies create dolls where the gender is a suprise to hopefully teach children that you dont always get what you want, or make more boy dolls. This was just a thought i really dont want this to turn into a massive debate but I just think the emphasis on dolls that are girls is causeiing a predispostion in some girls to want a daughter and suffer GD when they dont get that childhood dream of a DD. I would love to see what everyone else thinks.

I agree with your theory seem's to make sence!

 I don't remember WHICH of my many forums someone posted it, but a girl was saying that her friend's dd had the pg barbie (gender is a surprise) and her baby had a girl...so the little girl asked her mom for one and she went and got one and had a boy...she was sad. She wanted a girl as well.

It is crazy that it starts so early. But at the young age..boys/girls still have cooties soo really not too surprised. I don't get the 'real' like pooping, peeing, barfing...baby dolls..seriously..I don't get them. We wonder why kids want babies younger and younger, but yet these DOLLS are soo baby baby like. I mean, yes, my dd will probably receive dolls in her lifetime..but I am just mystified why they have to make the dolls do so much..pretty soon it will be..."oops, naughty talk baby"...'this baby overheard mommy and daddy using 'bad' words. She comes equipped with real tears after getting her hand smacked/soap in mouth...'

Sure does!   I remember being young about seven and actually expressing the concern to my mom about not having a daughter.    I remember playing "house" with my friends and being pregnant (baby stuffed up my clothes) and saying to my friends, "I hope this is my little girl".    I also have journal entries that I wrote when I was about 15 expressing the fact that I was so worried about never having a DD.     Now, I don't know why I felt this way growing up, but I do know that it started at a very young age.

where did you get that barbie? it is FANTASTIC!

 I never had much interest in dolls when I was younger. I had some and usually just played with them when friends were over because they wanted to. I rarely played with them myself. I had a boy cabbage patch and he was my favorite. Kinda shows how I had a preference towards male babies even from an early age. I really dont know why. Its just the way I am I guess. 

i know a lot of women who wanted only boys or a boy first but more women I know would rather have a girl or all girls... Most men I know want all boys or more boys/ a boy first. I think we just want the gender were more like and feel better around. Im a girly girl and it scared the heck out of me to have a boy... When I was a little girl though most of my babies I "made" boys and dressed them as boys and I remember one I named Mikey and he went everywhere with me. I always wanted boys and girls but I never thought it would be so hard for me to have girls. Dh and I tend to sway boy naturally so I had to do A LOT to get my little girl.

I agree with you, it sets the expectations.  About the only time you see boy dolls much is with b/g twins, and all the movies and shows too that I saw as a child, mainly with older bro/younger sis made me think that is just what I would have . 

But I had to laugh when I read this line:

missodyssey:

Needless to say the store was not sympathetic and the mum left with penis in hand.

FWIW - Most dolls dressed in blue have no genitalia (or pink for that matter).  But all the dolls in my childbirth classes, all of them, were ANATOMICALLY female (all)

Edited to add : Most dolls that I have always seen - had no genitalia.  Maybe they are adding the little dickies to the dolls now? lol

I ABSOLUTELY agree with this theory.  Ever the girly girl, my favorite thing to do as a child was play house with my dolls.  I do remember that my babies were NEVER, EVER boys!  I had a cabbage patch doll that was a boy but I hardly ever played with him - he was always someone elses baby!  Like another poster said, I have no idea why I felt this way from such a young age.  I do think that GD is more extreme for me in part because of this.  I really did have my expectations set in my mind. 

 I always wanted the boy dolls. There were these dolls that were a suprise. You put a package in the water and the paper would melt away and then it would tell you what your doll was and have an outfit. I was so disappointed when I got the girl ones. It is really hard to find boy dolls.

Its funny that you posted this because I was the exact opposite as a child. I wanted boy baby dolls and could NEVER find any!!! I was always so frustrated because I just didn't like the girl baby dolls. I would get the bald babies, throw away the pink clothes and my mom would buy real newborn blue clothes

I can certainly see how girls would be raised to believe they would have girls just by the simple fact that all their baby dolls are girls. This was not the case for me. In fact I didn't find myself wanting a girl until I got pg with DS2.

hekamc:

There were these dolls that were a suprise. You put a package in the water and the paper would melt away and then it would tell you what your doll was and have an outfit. I was so disappointed when I got the girl ones. It is really hard to find boy dolls.

OMG those were my favortie dolls!! I had like 4 of them and always got the girls too Finally my mom called the company and special ordered me a boy doll lol.

Fairy_Dust:

hekamc:

There were these dolls that were a suprise. You put a package in the water and the paper would melt away and then it would tell you what your doll was and have an outfit. I was so disappointed when I got the girl ones. It is really hard to find boy dolls.

OMG those were my favortie dolls!! I had like 4 of them and always got the girls too Finally my mom called the company and special ordered me a boy doll lol.

Wow sounds like there was no "surprise" at all, they were all girls!  By the way, I have always found it very hard to find a doll dressed in blue, even the ones in blue usually have a frill or pink heart that identifies it as a girl doll. 

That pregnant Barbie is hilarious. She all belly must be be good genes ha ha ha.

Back to OP I was mortified to see the mums reaction to the stores response. I swear if she had huffed and puffed anymore there would be no toy store left. I have to admit i had all girl dolls but I used to dress them in blue i never really thought about the gender back then i think because i ahd a brother boys didn't phase me much. My cousin had allllllll girl things and was a girly girl from day dot. She only wanted pink everything she even had a pink care bear where i had the brown one with the heart on his belly. All my teddies were boys.  

Dino'sandcars we had dolls in our kindy that had willys and lil VJJ's and i liked the boy babies then too.  

Fivehappychildren i totally agree with dolls becoming more life like too. You see the ad's on TV with the newborn babies weeing and pooing. I hate the ones that say "I love you mummy" NO NO NO babies will never say this to you if you newborn can talk and say that clear as day then you will be laughing to the bank ha ha ha. Nor does my child giggle when i give him a firm poke in the tummy. They need to make one that looks at you with that "what the hell was that you just did... i did not like that one bit..... idiot"  Thats the look i get from my DS. ha ha ha 

Yes I do think it does! I already know my daughter is going to have GD if she has a son. She only wants girl dolls and pink! She even wants to go to an all girls school. lol

Does anyone remember diaper dolls? They were small and plastic, once you opened them you got the gender suprise by putting them in the freezer and the diaper either turned pink or blue! I loved those things.