Gender Swaying

Re: Soy isoflavones

omsairam — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:02:27 GMT

Srbaby...I agree with needalilprince. Here's the explanation-we all know that soy iso is used in a similar manner to clomid for 5 cycle days and no more.There is a clear protocol for clomid use but none for soy.So what is important to remember is that there are two ways of taking it.If the individual has difficulty ovulating naturally then a higher dose is required but even then...it has to be started at a low dose = 80mg.....gradually building it up to 160/200mg. If the person taking it can naturally ovulate but wants to take it for swaying and bringing on a stronger O.... Then you can take the lowest possible dose for all the 5 days =80mg.i hope it makes sense.Clomid regime generally is either cd3-7 or cd5-9. Like clomid soy also helps with increasing LP but more so when taken cd2-6. I personally wouldn't recommend cd1-5 because eggs may be immature and resulting pregnancies may end in mc.

Re: Soy isoflavones

needalil prince — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:11:27 GMT

Srbaby, I have read the effect on the egg depends on when you take soy...1~5 increases your chance of multiple's 3~7 good quality egg's and 5~9 One great quality egg...I really didn't look into it much, but I saw alot of women taking it from 2~6 so just went with it...I plan to do that again. good luck at the O.B.

P.S. I would not take to much soy you risk not ovulationg at all I hear...I would personally start of 80mg and increase if you feel ok no headaches etc.

Re: Soy isoflavones

srbaby — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:33:02 GMT

i almost forgot,, tommorow i am going to meet my obgyn and i will ask her for theHSG proedure ,, to see my tubes are open or not,,, lets see what she will recomend.

Re: Soy isoflavones

srbaby — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:28:30 GMT

Thanks to all for answering my questions,,

so i think i am well equipped for my attempt with Soy and Eggs and what else,,,,,,

this time my cyccle was so short i ovulated on cd13 and lp was 9 days ,, so my new cyle started on 14th of june ,, i planned to attempt in july

but due to all these i think i am ovulating again in june .

one more question ladies, how mucch soy do you think i should take , i know that 100mg soy is equivalent to 50 mg of clomid.is 200mg of soy too much and how should i take it 200mg eacch dayfor 5 days or i shouldstart with small doses first,,

sorry i know i am asking too many questions

needalil prince , why the variation in the dose from day to day ,,, ?? if u dont mind me asking

and about the monkeys ,, after posting your reply if the monkeys shows up press the bak button on your browser,, there u ccan see that your reply has been posted,,,HTH

Re: Soy isoflavones

needalil prince — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:26:55 GMT

Hi Srbaby, I have been a way and I just came across this now....I bought my Soy at Walmart. I took it first cycle 80mg CD3~7 I had some spotting as well & some EWcm . This cycle I skipped but still took the soy cd 2~6 80mg 2 days than increased to 120mg I had TONS of EWCM both on ovulation day and day's leading up to...HTH GL

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Re: Soy isoflavones

needalil prince — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:20:23 GMT

Srbaby,just trying to get caught up I've been away for a few day's ...I got my soy at walmart. I took it one cd 3~7 8omg I had mid cycle spotting a little aswell this past month I took it cd 2~6 80mg for 2 day's than increased to 120mg had tons of EWCM for days right around & on ovulation...However I skipped this month but I just wanted to see if any changesnow I know I will do that for july. HTH GL

Re: Soy isoflavones

omsairam — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:46:05 GMT

srbaby, sorry for hijacking your post :) I got my SI from The Vitamin Shoppe -online...im not sure where you get it in the US...maybe someone else will chime in. My diet is fine...i did cheat on few occasions when i felt frustrated with my messed up cycle(due to a sinus infection)....i should attempt in about 15-20 days if all goes well. W.r.t eggwhites...first of all-check pH of the eggwhites and if it is optimal...you can wash them with soap(i also use dettol) and place them in the fridge.Remove prior to attempt and break open one of the...check pH...then use it as per the instructions in FAQ. I suggest you read it thoroughly in faq...as there are few ways of using it...with instead cup/with syringe etc...see what suits you and hubby. hth.

Re: Soy isoflavones

babybleux32 — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:40:18 GMT

I used EB farm eggs too. I Set them out to room temp then seperated the yolk and whites. I used a medicine syringe a 3CC syringe. I tested ph to make sure it was right then pulled up 2ML of EW. 2ml and 2cc are the same measurements. I laid with hips propped and inserted the EW and allowed it to coat cervix and then DH and I DTD. Some ladies wait to insert until right before DH released but we tend to get caught up and would have forgotten. Besides none spilled out anyway. HTH!

Re: Soy isoflavones

omsairam — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:37:39 GMT

**BB** thanks for sharing your experience,really appreciate it.yaeh and as you said...its probably because you were unwell that O was halted and you had a 2nd surge and ovulated when your body recovered.Exact same thing happened to me...i ovulated 1 week later after my infection was gone completely.I didn't attempt. Just wanted to say something for a long time...thanks for being there for everyone even after your BFP....it takes a selfless soul to do this.Hope you get whatever you want in life effortlessly. xxxxxxo

Re: Soy isoflavones

srbaby — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:28:44 GMT

Thanks babybluex32 ,,i never ovulate on same day so lets see ,, i am hoping for a strong ovulation and some EWCM ,,

planning to use EW,, so i am getting egglands best farm fresh eggs , then what do i do ,, help please

i am not doing any supplements coz fishoil made my cm dense and lot like lotion ( sorry TMI ) ,

Re: Soy isoflavones

srbaby — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:17:03 GMT

Thanks Strawbbell and omsairam for the answers , but i am in US, so where can i find them. Strawbell hope you get your BFP this time .

should we worry about body gearing up for ovulation and not actually ovulating , ccoz i have been hearing about it a lot lately and can anyone give me instructions how to use egg whites please .

sai, when are you attempting ,, how is your diet

Re: Soy isoflavones

babybleux32 — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:08:50 GMT

I got mine from a health food store. I took it CD 3-7 and had no spotting, but a lot of cramping from 4DPO and onward. It stopped about 10DPO. Wasn't as bad as the months I m/c but it was noticeable. My O was actually delayed by 3 days, but I think it could have been due to my really bad cold. I had my first LH surge on CD 14 and that would have brought it forward by one day, but I actually didn't O until my second surge. I took 100mg.

Re: Soy isoflavones

omsairam — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:48:04 GMT

My FX for you for a sticky blue BFP. Ok...so I'm going to try it too....its been sitting on my kitchen shelf for ages now.

Re: Soy isoflavones

strawbell02 — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:42:00 GMT

Heres hoping! I've never ever experienced mid cycle spotting but def did this month about 2 days before ovulation. It didn't actually change my ovulation day according to FF. My AF is due anytime maybe even slightly late but generally 1 have a 12day LF and its 11dpo today. I messed around with my temps on FF so its a day earlier on there.

Re: Soy isoflavones

omsairam — Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:16:00 GMT

Wow...thats good about ewcm...because its said that that is how SI sways blue.I hope that you won't need to take it next cycle! The more i read about SI...more I want to try it...the spotting apparently is due to SI from what i've read and women who have had that symptom also got pregnant that very cycle... Did it bring O forward or something? I know for needalilprince it brought her O day forward by one day.Thanks